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|mi <mark>tawa ja</mark> telo e kasi.
|I'm <mark>going (in order) to</mark> water the plants.
|3=mi <mark>tawa<span style="display:inline-block;transform:scaleX(-1);">lo</span></mark>telo e kasi}}
|sp=no}}
 
{{Example
|mi <mark>open ja</mark> <mark>olin ja</mark> telo e kasi.
|I'm <mark>starting to</mark> <mark>love</mark> watering the plants.
|3=mi <mark>open <span style="display:inline-block;transform:scaleX(-1);">lo</span></mark> <mark>olin <span style="display:inline-block;transform:scaleX(-1);">lo</span></mark>telo e kasi}}
|sp=no}}
 
{{tp|ja}} allows unambiguous [[modifiers|modification]] of preverbs by putting multiple [[content words]] before it.
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|mi <mark>wile mute ja</mark> sona e ni
|I <mark>really want</mark> to know this.
|3=mi <mark>wile mute <span style="display:inline-block;transform:scaleX(-1);">lo</span></mark>sona e ni}}
|sp=no}}
 
Well-established preverbs can be marked with {{tp|ja}} for clarification, but this is not required. When using well-established preverbs in the same sentence, all preverbs before the last {{tp|ja}} should be marked by {{tp|ja}} to avoid ambiguity, but preverbs after the last {{tp|ja}} can remain unmarked.
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|mi pali e ni <mark>lo kepeken wawa ja</mark> luka mi.
|I made this <mark>by using</mark> my hands <mark>with a lot of force</mark>.
|3=mi pali e ni <mark>lo kepeken wawa <span style="display:inline-block;transform:scaleX(-1);">lo</span></mark>luka mi}}
|sp=no}}
{{Example
|soko li <mark>lo ante mute ja</mark> leko.
|Mushrooms are <mark>very different from</mark> squares.
|3=soko li <mark>lo ante mute <span style="display:inline-block;transform:scaleX(-1);">lo</span></mark>leko}}
|sp=no}}
 
=== Semantics ===
The meanings of preverbs marked by {{tp|ja}} are not explicitly defined. It was meant to work with already proposed experimental preverbs rather than being used as a regular method to create new preverbs. However, it can also be used with any system of regular preverb derivation, including the ones proposed for {{tp|ta}} and {{tp|ni}}.
 
=== {{tp|sitelen pona}} ===
A proposed {{tp|[[sitelen pona]]}} glyph for {{tp|ja}} (<span style="display:inline-block;transform:scaleX(-1);">{{sp|lo}}</span>) depicts a rightwards arrow from a vertical bar, similar to a {{w|maplet arrow}} (↦). It is the mirror image of an earlier glyph for {{tp|[[lo]]}} ({{sp|lo}}). It was proposed by jan Pensa in 2024.<ref>{{cite Discord|url=https://discord.com/channels/948448338662010910/951966419283742750/1217103621410521248|channel=sitelen-pona-discussion|server=ma pi nasin sitelen|author=[[jan Pensa]]|username=jpensa|access-date=2024-04-09|quote=I just had an idea for a new (obscure) glyph: Since ja (preverb marker) was designed to work together with lo (preposition marker), why not make it the mirror image of the lo glyph?}}</ref>
 
=={{tp|ta}}==
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'''{{tp|ta}}''' was developed by [[User:Lassc|the keyring system]] in 2023 with inspiration from {{tp|ja}} jan Tepo's {{tp|ni}}. The keyring system intended it as an alternative to {{tp|ja}} without the need to repeat the particle for multiple preverbs, and with more clearly defined semantics to allow any word to be used as a preverb.<ref>{{cite Discord|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/340307145373253642/1066926383747575829|channel=pali-musi|server=ma pona pi toki pona|author=kupikoni|username=kupikoni#3673|access-date=2024-02-03|quote=i knew about ja when making ta, but I had complaints about how poorly defined the semantics of content word to pv meaning were and i disliked the idea of repeating the particle for every pv}}</ref>
 
Coincidentally, {{tok|jan Kita}} also offhandedly suggested {{tp|ta}} as a preverb-marking particle in February 2021,<ref>{{cite Discord|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/375591429608570881/813515031429120012|channel=sona-musi|server=ma pona pi toki pona|author=jan Kita|username=.hecko|access-date=2024-03-12}}<blockquote>
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|jan-mute li nasin <mark>ta </mark>tawa() tomo-pali
}}
 
=== {{tp|sitelen pona}} ===
The {{tp|[[sitelen pona]]}} glyph for {{tp|ta}} ({{sp|ta}}) looks like the mirror image of the uppercase letter {{w|sigma}} (Σ). It was created by the keyring system, who often write it as an [[extended glyph]], with both horizonal lines extending leftwards.<ref>{{cite Discord|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/1053850152932233266/1072543870660923473|channel=toki-suli|thread=linja lipamanka|server=ma pona pi toki pona|author=keyring system|username=kupikoni|access-date=2024-04-09|quote=for our ta glyph, we often write it extended like this.}}</ref>
 
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