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{{w|Reddit}} user u/eriksealander, referred to '''Erik Sealander''' throughout the rest of the article, is a language teacher, is controversially considered the father of the first native speakers of Toki Pona. In an interview with {{tok|[[Aronora]]}}, he stated that he started teaching his children Toki Pona as he is a language enthusiast and for the benefits of {{w|multilingualism}} at a young age. His children are also multilingual in both English and Arabic.<ref>{{cite YouTube|id=iZ2zBQbqKB8|title=INTERVIEW {{!}} The First Toki Pona Natives|author={{tok|jan Alonola}}|channel=Aronora|handle=Aronora|date=2020-11-29|access-date=2024-01-02}}</ref><ref>{{tok|jan Alonola}} (5 April 2021). "{{tok|toki tawa jan Elike (mama pi jan lili pi toki pona)}}". In [https://liputenpo.org/lipu-tenpo-nanpa-soweli/ {{tp|lipu tenpo nanpa soweli}}] (in Toki Pona). {{tp|lipu tenpo}}.</ref>
 
Sealander has stated that his older daughter, called {{tok|jan Lililan}}, can understand the basics of Toki Pona, answering prompts and producing speech. The first unprompotedunprompted phrase from her, according to him, was "{{tp|ni li palisa}}" when pointing to an electric pole.<ref name="sealander2020" /> In 2021, he posted a picture of her {{tp|sitelen pona}} writing practice claiming that she could recognize 43 glyphs with flash cards at only four-years old.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/tokipona/comments/paxi8z/tenpo_ni_la_jan_lili_wan_pi_toki_pona_li_kama/|title={{tok|tenpo ni la, jan lili wan pi toki pona li kama sona e sitelen!}}|website=Reddit|name=u/eriksealander|date=2021-08-24|access-date=2024-01-02}}</ref>
 
However, these claims has come into scrutiny by others. In 2023, after meeting in person with both Sealander and his family, {{tok|jan Kekan San}} noted that the children did not speak Toki Pona to him and could not answer questions when prompted, only .<ref name="kekan2023" /> He later on went to call this "at best stretching the truth and at worst a hoax".<ref name="olipija2023">{{cite web|url=https://lukapona.blogspot.com/2023/02/native-speakers-pi-toki-ponali-lon-ala.html|title=Native Speakers {{tok|pi toki pona li lon ala lon}}?|website=lukapona.blogpost.com|author={{tok|jan Olipija}}|date=2023-02-12|access-date=2024-01-21}}</ref> In a blog post, {{tok|jan Olijpija}} suggested that the children may have learnt Toki Pona, but failed to maintain it as they grew up. She compared this example to children in Wales learning {{w|Welsh language|Welsh}}, where because of the lack of prestige of the language, speakers tend to have insufficient skills in it.<ref name="olipija2023" />