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'''{{tp|nasin nanpa pona}}''' is an extension to the {{tp|[[pu]]}} [[counting system]] for verylarge and exact numbers. It was created by {{tok|jan Kapilu}} and {{tok|jan Tepo}} in 2021 and sets out to express big numbers compactly.<ref name="kapilu-tepo">{{cite web|url=https://wyub.github.io/tokipona/nasinnanpapona|title=nasin nanpa pona|lang=tok|website=Wyubsite|author={{tok|jan Kapilu}}, {{tok|jan Tepo}}|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220203101845/https://wyub.github.io/tokipona/nasinnanpapona|archive-date=2022-02-03|url-status=dead|access-date=2024-02-05}}</ref> It is part of the {{tp|[[su]]}} style for writing the year in dates.<ref name="Oz">{{cite Oz}}</ref>
 
In [[Toki Pona]], numbers do very much not play a central role. In fact, exact numbers beyond 2 get mostly avoided, only using {{tp|[[mute]]}} in the right [[context]] to say what the quantity is like in the given situation. However, not only are exact numbers seemingly more needed sometimes (or at least they seem useful to a degree), some Toki Pona speakers insist on continuing to speak in ways that force the topic of not only exact, but also big numbers. Hence, people have been making and keep making [[nnai|new counting systems]] with varying degrees of being in line with toki pona and usefulness. Many of these end up replacing the way overly precise counting is already done (as documented, for example, in [[lipu pu|the official book]]).▼
 
Given the ongoing insistence to use big and exact numbers, {{tok|jan Kapilu}} and {{tok|jan Tepo}} got together in 2021 to create a counting system that sets out to be <em>as good</em> as the pu counting system. This way people can express large numbers somewhat compactly, and therefore comprehensibly.
 
==Overview==
Most speakers are content with, and prefer, using imprecise quantities. In fact, while {{tp|nasin nanpa pona}} is by far the best known counting system beyond pu, it is not actually used by as many.
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==An=Introduction introduction within {{tp|pu}}===
The official book {{lipu pu|en}} documents the following counting system. Given that {{tp|nasin nanpa pona}} is backwards compatible, all of these examples hold true for it as well.<ref>{{cite pu}}</ref>
 
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! style="width:0;" | {{w|Arabic numerals}}Numeral
! colspan="2" | Toki Pona
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| colspan="2" | {{tp|tu tu }}
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| style="text-align:right;" | 5 || {{tp|luka}} || {{tp|tu tu wan}}
| {{tp|luka}}
| {{tp|tu tu wan}}
|-
| style="text-align:right;" | 6
| colspan="2" | {{tp|luka wan}}
|-
| style="text-align:right;" | 20 || {{tp|mute}} || {{tp|luka luka luka luka}}
| {{tp|mute}}
| {{tp|luka luka luka luka}}
|-
| style="text-align:right;" | 36
| colspan="2" | {{tp|mute luka luka luka wan}}
|-
| style="text-align:right;" | 100 || {{tp|ale}} || {{tp|mute mute mute mute mute}}
| {{tp|ale}}
| {{tp|mute mute mute mute mute}}
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| style="text-align:right;" | 300
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===Extension to the counting system===
However, {{tp|nasin nanpa pona}} allows for one extra step to simplify numbers beyond a couple of hundreds: if numbers smaller than 100 precede {{tp|[[ale]]}}, then {{tp|ale}} gets multiplied by this number. As a result, {{tp|nasin nanpa pona}} is <strong>{{w|centesimal}} (base 100). The words {{tp|wan}} also precedes {{tp|ale}} to avoid confusion with the {{tp|pu}} system.<ref name="kapilu-tepo" /strong>.
 
{{Notice|'''Note:''' In this table, the quantity in {{tp|pu}} is just as valid in {{tp|nasin nanpa pona}}.}}
 
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Number
! style="width:0;" | Arabic numerals
! {{tp|nasin nanpa pona}}
! {{tp|pu}}
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| style="text-align: right;" | 100
| style="white-space: nowrap;" | {{tp|wan ale}}
| {{tp|ale}}
|-
| style="text-align: right;" | 300
| style="white-space: nowrap;" | {{tp|tu wan ale}}
| {{tp|ale ale ale}}
|-
| style="text-align: right;" | 10 001000
| style="white-space: nowrap;" | {{tp|luka luka ale}}
| {{tp|ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale}}
|-
| style="text-align: right;" | 1 23 452345
| {{tp|wan ale mute tu wan ale mute mute luka}}
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===Writing===
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===Decimal numbers===
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{| class="wikitable"
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! style="width:0;" | Arabic numeralsNumber
! {{tp|nasin nanpa pona}}
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==Notable usage==
In the book {{Oz|en}}, {{tok|[[jan Sonja]]}} used {{tp|nasin nanpa pona}} as the date format. Additionally, in {{sutp|sitelen pona}}, (2024she =used a then little-known variant of {{tp|[[mute]]}} ({{sp|tenpomute2}}), sikespecifically nanpafor mute2the alesense mute2of tu"twenty", composed of four glyphs for tu}}).<ref>{{cite Oztp|luka}}</ref>.
 
{{Example
|tenpo sike nanpa mute ale mute tu tu
|Year 2024
|tenpo sike nanpa mute2 ale mute2 tu tu
}}
 
==References==
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