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:I do agree that it may be better to remove them, if anyone objects. Feel free to revert my edit. [[User:SnpoSuwan|SnpoSuwan]] ([[User talk:SnpoSuwan|talk]]) 10:24, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
:I do agree that it may be better to remove them, if anyone objects. Feel free to revert my edit. [[User:SnpoSuwan|SnpoSuwan]] ([[User talk:SnpoSuwan|talk]]) 10:24, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

== Usage categories ==

There is no way tawa would make it into the same category as pini and open. It's not even clear if it ever existed - and that's putting it generously - there are several teachers that will say that it definitely doesn't exist and seeing it as a preverb is a misunderstanding of tawa as a preposition (together with styles like transitive prepositional phrases). ku listing it should not influence a usage frequency category like this.

I'd even put olin above tawa, and olin is not backed by anything - I don't even know how the "rare" parts made it into the list. [[User:Jan Ke Tami|Jan Ke Tami]] ([[User talk:Jan Ke Tami|talk]]) 11:19, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

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In English

It's not clear to me that there should be a discussion of English grammar here. I understand that for teaching it's useful to draw comparisons to a known language, but Toki Pona preverbs differ from English auxiliaries and perhaps it's confusing to identify them? I'd not be opposed to putting a link to another wiki's article on English auxiliaries as a point of comparison. JPeton (talk) 21:38, 11 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I do agree that it may be better to remove them, if anyone objects. Feel free to revert my edit. SnpoSuwan (talk) 10:24, 28 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Usage categories

There is no way tawa would make it into the same category as pini and open. It's not even clear if it ever existed - and that's putting it generously - there are several teachers that will say that it definitely doesn't exist and seeing it as a preverb is a misunderstanding of tawa as a preposition (together with styles like transitive prepositional phrases). ku listing it should not influence a usage frequency category like this.

I'd even put olin above tawa, and olin is not backed by anything - I don't even know how the "rare" parts made it into the list. Jan Ke Tami (talk) 11:19, 8 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]