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== Alternate gender glyphs ==
== Alternate gender glyphs ==
[[File:Gender glyphs from jan Deni.png|thumb|alt=3 sitelen pona glyphs, proposed by jan Deni. All three are formed by a circle, with an uppercase latin character overlaid on the bottom part of the circle. For mije, a "J" is used. For meli, and "L" is used. For tonsi, a "T" is used. |Alternate gender glyphs proposed by jan Deni]]
[[File:Gender glyphs from jan Deni.png|thumb]]


My proposal for alternate gender glyphs. I created them using these goals:
My proposal for alternate gender glyphs. I created them using these goals:
- Recognizable: Use a recognizable radical. I used the circle from "jan"
* Recognizable: Use a recognizable radical. I used the circle from "jan"
- Unbiased: Should not be based on stereotypical features (broad shoulders, long hair, hijab), or astrological/gender signs like ♂/♀
* Unbiased: Should not be based on stereotypical features (broad shoulders, long hair, hijab), or astrological/gender signs like ♂/♀
- Memorable: Include a memory aid, since gender and the glyphs to represent it are arbitrary. I used unique latin characters taken from each toki pona word. J for mije, L for meli, T for tonsi.
* Memorable: Include a memory aid, since gender and the glyphs to represent it are arbitrary. I used unique latin characters taken from each toki pona word. J for mije, L for meli, T for tonsi.
- Unambiguous: The shapes should not be confusable for a combination of stacked or nested glyphs. To avoid reading anything like "ijo X", I took the latin character and made it overlap with the circle. Normal glyph stacking never does this, so it's unambiguosu
* Unambiguous: The shapes should not be confusable for a combination of stacked or nested glyphs. To avoid reading anything like "ijo X", I took the latin character and made it overlap with the circle. Normal glyph stacking never does this, so it's unambiguosu


=== Community reception ===
=== Community reception ===
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I [https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/828474497865744444/1135686103924490281 polled ma pona about the glyphs], to very positive feedback. I have not seen any other proposal be this well received.
I [https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/828474497865744444/1135686103924490281 polled ma pona about the glyphs], to very positive feedback. I have not seen any other proposal be this well received.


[[File:Screenshot 2023-08-24 at 11.39.41 AM.png|thumb]]
[[File:Screenshot 2023-08-24 at 11.39.41 AM.png|thumb|alt=A poll posted on ma pona pi toki pona, asking for feedback on the gender glyphs]]


- pona tawa mi / ike tawa mi - 60 pona, 18 ike
* pona tawa mi / ike tawa mi - 60 pona, 18 ike
- mi ken kepeken ni / mi wile ala kepeken ni - 11 kepeken, 28 wile ala
* mi ken kepeken ni / mi wile ala kepeken ni - 11 kepeken, 28 wile ala
- jan ante li kepeken la ni li ike ala / jan o kepeken ala - 36 ike ala, 1 kepeken ala
* jan ante li kepeken la ni li ike ala / jan o kepeken ala - 36 ike ala, 1 kepeken ala


==== Font support ====
==== Font support ====