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'''{{tp|ki}}''' is {{a category}} [[post-pu|post-{{tp|pu}}]] [[particle]] that marks a relative [[clause]]. It is highlyalmost nonstandardnever used due to its implications for [[Toki Pona]] [[grammar]], making sentences much more complex.
 
==Etymology==
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==Function==
{{tp|ki}} acts like a {{wp|relative pronoun}}, similar to English "which", "who", or "that".
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*Can you drop the subject of the relative clause? If so, then as an alternative, describe how {{tp|A <del>ki</del> B li C}} expresses roughly the same thing as {{tp|A <ins>li</ins> B li C}}, or at least {{tp|A li B la ona li C}}.
{{Example
*What is its priority relative to other particles?
|jan <mark>ki</mark> moku e kili
**In {{tp|A ki B li C li D li E}}, how many of the {{tp|li}} belong to the {{tp|ki}} clause? The <strong>clause</strong> {{tp|B li C}} must be, at least, because just the <strong>phrase</strong> {{tp|ki B}} would be {{tp|pi B}}, but is there any rule for the rest, such as the second or final {{tp|li}} ending the {{tp|ki}} clause? Or is this just guessed, or supposed to be marked only with prosody or punctuation? Or can {{tp|li}} not be used within {{tp|ki}} after all, forcing the subject to be dropped as above?
|the man <mark>who</mark> eats fruit
**Likewise with {{tp|A li B ki C e D e E}}, which {{tp|e}} ends the {{tp|ki}} clause? Or can {{tp|ki}} not be used in this position? Or is it unclear?
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Many details about how ki works have never been decided on, since it is almost never used in practice. For example, the sentence "{{tp|jan ki moku kili li tawa li pona}}" could mean either "the man who eats fruit moves and is good" or "the man who eats fruit and moves is good". This ambiguity can be avoided in {{tp|sitelen pona}} by marking the scope with an underline extending from the glyph (see [[#sitelen pona|#{{tp|sitelen pona}}]]).
 
==Alternatives==
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