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'''{{tp|lo}}''' (or '''{{tp|lu}}''') is {{a category}} [[particle]] that
==Etymology==
The word {{tp|
Summarized conversation:
<blockquote>'''akesi kon Nalasuni''': (pilin mi la please do not actually everything preps, it makes sentence parsing very uncomfortably difficult to me)
:I would much rather have a prep-marker particle
'''Theepicosity:''' sona musi: lon is actually the prep marker particle
:mi pali lon utala sina = i work against you
:or maybe thats better suited for la
:utala sina la mi pali
:yeah
:i could see that
'''kala pona Tonyu:''' oo
:omg the prep marker is alu
:everything's solved now everyone go home
'''Theepicosity:''' if you really wanted to use alu you could shorten it to just lu
:and lu = prep marker
'''kala pona Tonyu:''' oooo LU
'''akesi kon Nalasuni''': mi sitelen e lipu lu utala sina?
'''Theepicosity:''' yeee
'''kala pona Tonyu:''' i like lu
</blockquote></ref><ref>{{cite Discord|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/316066233755631616/761531904787873802|channel={{tp|jaki}}|server={{tp|ma pona pi toki pona}}|author=Theepicosity|username=theepicosity|access-date=2024-03-12}}
<blockquote>''another'' musi concept word, that everyone seems to want really badly:<br/>
Prepositional Particle - ''lu''<br/>
lu comes directly before a preposition to indicate the start of a prepositional phrase<br/>
lu is not required when the word after is in the prepositional class. (e.g. tawa, kepeken, lon, sama, en tan) This is so that sentences which are pre-lu remain the same.<br/>
usually, only the first word after the lu is used as a preposition, but this depends on how much you like modifying preps.
Examples:<br/>
mi pali e ijo ni lu utala sina.<br/>
I make this object in opposition to you.<br/>
mi pana e ijo mi tawa sina lu esun ijo sina.<br/>
I give this thing to you in exchange for your thing.</blockquote></ref>
Following the publication of {{ku|en}} in 2021, {{tok|[[jan Pensa]]}} proposed changing {{tp|lu}} to {{tp|lo}} to avoid it clashing with [[nimi ku#Reserved words|the word reserved by Sonja Lang]].<ref>{{cite Discord|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/375591429608570881/892120051329671269|channel={{tp|sona-musi}}|server={{tp|ma pona pi toki pona}}|author={{tok|[[jan Pensa]]}}|username=jpensa|access-date=2024-03-12|quote=yeah, I've been thinking lately that, even though lu is pre-ku and it existed before Sonja reserving the word, if lu wants to be future-proof it might be better to change it to "lo" or something. maybe even have it be an ale/ali situation :P}}</ref><ref>{{cite Discord|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/316066233755631616/895031343669477477|channel={{tp|jaki}}|server={{tp|ma pona pi toki pona}}|author={{tok|[[jan Pensa]]}}|username=jpensa|access-date=2024-03-12}}
<blockquote>'''lo''' – ~''post-ku''~ Prepositional particle that marks that the next word is a preposition.
← post-ku variant of '''lu''', to avoid collision with the word reserved by Sonja (see <code>... lu</code>)
Allows for non-pu prepositions. lo is not required when the word after is in the prepositional class (e.g. tawa, kepeken, lon, sama, tan), but it can be used to disambiguate (e.g. ''mi pana e tomo lo tawa sina'')<br/>
Examples:
<blockquote>''mi pali e ijo ni lo utala sina.''</blockquote>
I make this object in opposition to you.
<blockquote>''mi pana e ijo mi tawa sina lo esun ijo sina.''</blockquote>
I give this thing to you in exchange for your thing.
Usually, only the first word after lo is used as a preposition. You can use lo with ja to make modified or compound prepositions (see <code>... ja</code>).
See <code>... unambiguous</code> for more experimental ways to grammatically disambiguate Toki Pona.</blockquote></ref>
==Function==
{{tp|lo}} or {{tp|lu}} can be placed in front of a preposition. This can be used for experimental prepositions, or to disambiguate common prepositions.
{{Example|mi pali e ijo ni <mark>lo utala</mark> sina.|I make this object <mark>in opposition to</mark> you.}}
{{Example|mi pana e ijo mi tawa sina <mark>lo esun</mark> ijo sina.|I give this thing to you <mark>in exchange for</mark> your thing.}}
{{Example|mi pana e tomo <mark>lo tawa</mark> sina.|I give you a house.}}
===together with {{tp|ja}}===
The experimental preverb-marking particle {{tp|[[ja]]}} was also designed to work in combination with {{tp|lu}} or {{tp|lo}} to allow for unambiguous modification of prepositions.<ref>{{cite Discord|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/870019569866145812|channel=sona-mus|thread=nimisin for marking preverbs|server=ma pona pi toki pona|access-date=2024-02-03}}</ref>
{{Example
|mi pali e ni <mark>lo kepeken wawa ja</mark> luka mi.
|I made this <mark>by using</mark> my hands <mark>with a lot of force</mark>.
|sp=no}}
{{Example
|soko li <mark>lo ante mute ja</mark> leko.
|Mushrooms are <mark>very different from</mark> squares.
|sp=no}}
=={{tp|sitelen pona}}==
{{needs work|who invented the sitelen pona glyph?|section}}
==See also==
*[[Preverb marking]]
==References==
<references />
==Further reading==
*{{R:Linku}}
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