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{{tp title|mi li|sina li}}

{{Needs work|Propose to merge with {{tp|[[Special:MyLanguage/li|li]]}}}}

 

The phrases '''{{tp|mi li}} and {{tp|sina li}}''' are generally considered to be ungrammatical. If a sentence starts with {{tp|mi}} or with {{tp|sina}} as the only word in the [[Special:MyLanguage/subject|subject]], the [[Special:MyLanguage/predicate|predicate]] immediately follows after.

 

{{tp|li}} is not added if {{tp|mi}} is the <em>only word</em> in the subject or if {{tp|sina}} is the ''only word'' in the subject. With {{tp|en}}, there are now two subjects, so {{tp|li}} is added.

 

{{example|mi en sina li pali.}}

 

{{tp|li}} follows {{tp|mi}} and {{tp|sina}} when used as modifiers. In the sentence below, {{tp|sina}} is not the subject, it is only part of the subject.

 

{{Example|soweli sina li pona.}}

 

{{tp|li}} is still used if {{tp|mi}} or {{tp|sina}} are modified.

 

{{Example|mi tu li kama.}}

 

===Multiple predicates===

{{pu}} says that when multiple predicates are applied to {{tp|mi}} or {{tp|sina}}, a new sentence should start.<ref>{{cite pu|56}}</ref>

 

{{Example|sina pali. sina wawa.}}

 

Some speakers use a second {{tp|li}} in this case. This is referred to as "extended {{tp|li}} style" in [[Special:MyLanguage/ku|ku]].<ref group="lower-alpha">This has a parallel in Tok Pisin's particle ''{{lang|tpi|i}}'', where a second predicate to the same subject gets introduced with it.</ref>

 

{{Example|sina pali li wawa.}}

 

===Edge cases===

In some cases, speakers' styles may lead to differences in how {{tp|li}} is used. The word {{tp|[[Special:MyLanguage/a|a]]}} in sentence below is seen as applying to {{tp|mi}}, but it is a special case that leads to {{tp|li}} not factoring in because of the nature of the word {{tp|a}}.<!--vague--> However, because it is still acting similar or even the same as a modifier, speakers might also use {{tp|li}} just like with any modifier. A similar effect might happen with {{tp|kin}}.

 

{{Example|mi a wawa.}}

{{Example|mi a li wawa.}}

 

==Notes==

 

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==References==

 

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<ref name="franklin1980">