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===Drift from "do" sense===
===Semantic drift from "do" sense===
{{Needs work|1=Not sure how to call the "X li Y e Z" = "X makes Z Y" construction. Apart from that, do other communities outside of ma pona do this? When did people *start* doing it?|2=section}}
{{Anchor|palin't}}
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[[Historical]]ly and in {{lipu pu}}, the word {{tp|pali}} was often used as a generic verb meaning "to do". This has since become notably less popular, an instance of {{w|semantic drift}}.<ref name="palint">{{cite web|url=https://mun.la/sona/palint|title=palin't|author={{tok|[[jan Kekan San]]}}|website=mun.la|publisher=|access-date=2024-01-21}}</ref> This drift is sometimes referred to as '''{{tp|pali}}n't'''.
In [[historical usage]] and in the book {{pu|en}}, the word {{tp|pali}} was often used as a generic action verb meaning "to do". This has since become notably less popular, an instance of {{w|semantic drift}}. This drift is sometimes referred to as {{tp|pali}}n't.<ref name="palint">{{cite web|url=https://mun.la/sona/palint|title=palin't|author={{tok|[[jan Kekan San]]}}|website=mun.la|publisher=|access-date=2024-01-21}}</ref>


{{Example
{{Example
|sina pali e seme?
|sina <mark>pali</mark> e seme?
|What are you doing? (''obsolete usage'')<br
|What are you doing? (''obsolete usage'')<br
/>What are you working on? (''surviving usage'')<ref name="palint" />
/>What are you working on? (''surviving usage'')<ref name="palint" />
|sina pali e seme
|sina <mark>pali </mark> e seme
}}
}}


Many speakers now prefer more direct constructions with a causative predicate.{{citation needed}} This may have motivated the change.
Many speakers nowadays prefer more direct constructions with a causative predicate construction, in the form ''X {{tp|li}} Y {{tp|e}} Z''.


{{Example
{{Example
|ona li pali e ni: mi pona.
|ona li <mark>pali</mark> e ni: mi pona.
|They do this: I am good. (''obsolete usage'')
|They do this: I am good. (''obsolete usage'')
|ona li pali e ni2 {{idsp}} mi pona
|ona li <mark>pali </mark> e ni2 {{idsp}} mi pona
}}
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