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The phrases '''{{tp|mi li}} and {{tp|sina li}}''' are generally considered to be ungrammatical. If a sentence starts with {{tp|mi}} or with {{tp|sina}} as the only word in the [[Special:MyLanguage/subject|subject]], the [[Special:MyLanguage/predicate|predicate]] immediately follows after.
 
==Why no {{tp|li}}?==
 
Learners sometimes wonder why {{tp|li}} gets added for everything else, but not for {{tp|mi}} and {{tp|sina}}. Because the underlying confusion, or curiosity, can have different causes, there are many possible answers.
 
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==When to add {{tp|li}} anyway==
 
The relationship {{tp|li}} has to {{tp|mi}} and {{tp|sina}} is often overly shortened to "no {{tp|li}} after {{tp|mi}} or {{tp|sina}}". However, taking this abbreviated explanation at face-value can lead to confusion for learners, in some cases where the word {{tp|li}} follows {{tp|mi}} and {{tp|sina}}.
 
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===Multiple predicates===
 
{{pu}} says that when multiple predicates are applied to {{tp|mi}} or {{tp|sina}}, a new sentence should start.<ref>{{cite pu|56}}</ref>
 
{{Example|sina pali. sina wawa.}}
 
Some speakers use a second {{tp|li}} in this case. This is referred to as "extended {{tp|li}} style" in [[Special:MyLanguage/ku|ku]].<ref group="lower-alpha">This has a parallel in Tok Pisin's particle ''{{lang|tpi|i}}'', where a second predicate to the same subject gets introduced with it.</ref>
 
{{Example|sina pali li wawa.}}
 
===Edge cases===
 
In some cases, speakers' styles may lead to differences in how {{tp|li}} is used. The word {{tp|[[Special:MyLanguage/a|a]]}} in sentence below is seen as applying to {{tp|mi}}, but it is a special case that leads to {{tp|li}} not factoring in because of the nature of the word {{tp|a}}.<!--vague--> However, because it is still acting similar or even the same as a modifier, speakers might also use {{tp|li}} just like with any modifier. A similar effect might happen with {{tp|kin}}.
 
{{Example|mi a wawa.}}
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==Notes==
 
<references group="lower-alpha"/>
 
==References==
 
<references>
<ref name="franklin1980">
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</references>
 
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