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| to play; to make <var>X</var> make sound |
| to play; to make <var>X</var> make sound |
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| to sound; to make the sound <var>X</var> |
| to sound; to make the sound <var>X</var> |
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| ike Pike<ref name="tonyu2019"/> |
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| {{tp|[[lawa]]}} |
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| to be a head; to control <var>X</var> |
| to be a head; to control <var>X</var> |
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| to put in charge; to make <var>X</var> a head |
| to put in charge; to make <var>X</var> a head |
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| ike Pike<ref name="tonyu2019"/> |
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| {{tp|[[mama]]}} |
| {{tp|[[mama]]}} |
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| to be a parent; to nurture <var>X</var> |
| to be a parent; to nurture <var>X</var> |
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| to make <var>X</var> a parent |
| to make <var>X</var> a parent |
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| {{tok|jan Likipi}}<ref>jan Likipi |
| {{tok|jan Likipi}}<ref>{{cite Discord|name={{tok|jan Likipi}}|username=lilscribby|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/375591429608570881/737752639961432225|message type=Messages|channel={{tok|sona-musi}}|server={{tp|ma pona pi toki pona}}}} |
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re: what's monsutatesu<br/> |
re: what's monsutatesu<br/> |
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mi mama e ona means what?<br/> |
mi mama e ona means what?<br/> |
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| rowspan="2" | to consume (<var>X</var>) |
| rowspan="2" | to consume (<var>X</var>) |
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| to give fuel; to feed <var>X</var> |
| to give fuel; to feed <var>X</var> |
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| to be fuel<ref group="lower-alpha">Fails {{tp|monsutatesu}} as a transitive verb.</ref> |
| to be fuel<ref group="lower-alpha">Fails {{tp|monsutatesu}} as a transitive verb.</ref> |
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|{{tok|[[jan Misali]]}}<ref>{{tok|[[jan Misali]]}} (13 December 2015). |
|{{tok|[[jan Misali]]}}<ref>{{tok|[[jan Misali]]}} (13 December 2015). [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L-dvvng4Zc?t=148 "Day One: Reading and Whatnot"] (2:28–2:42). ''[[12 Days of sona pi toki pona|12 Days of {{tok|sona pi toki pona}}]]''. ''YouTube''.</ref> |
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| {{tp|[[monsuta]]}} |
| {{tp|[[monsuta]]}} |
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| to be scary; to scare <var>X</var> |
| to be scary; to scare <var>X</var> |
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| to be afraid; to fear <var>X</var> |
| to be afraid; to fear <var>X</var> |
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| {{tok|jan Kipo}}<ref>{{tok|janKipo}} (4 October 2010). [//forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?p=9294&sid=9f93ae0f9a42d83f4309ded52c9b269e#p9294 Re: monsuta moli]. ''Toki Pona Forums''.<blockquote>Does 'monsuta' as vt mean "be afraid of", as here, or "frighten"? The latter seems more reasonable somehow.</blockquote></ref><ref name="tonyu2019">{{tok|kala pona Tonyu}} (29 January 2021). |
| {{tok|jan Kipo}}<ref>{{tok|janKipo}} (4 October 2010). [//forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?p=9294&sid=9f93ae0f9a42d83f4309ded52c9b269e#p9294 Re: monsuta moli]. ''Toki Pona Forums''.<blockquote>Does 'monsuta' as vt mean "be afraid of", as here, or "frighten"? The latter seems more reasonable somehow.</blockquote></ref><ref name="tonyu2019">{{tok|kala pona Tonyu}} (29 January 2021). [//lipukule.org/post/2021/01/29/monsutatesu "{{tok|monsutatesu}}"]. {{tp|[[lipu kule]]}}.</ref> |
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| {{tp|[[musi]]}} |
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| to be fun; to entertain <var>X</var> |
| to be fun; to entertain <var>X</var> |
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| to have fun; to enjoy <var>X</var> |
| to have fun; to enjoy <var>X</var> |
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| {{tok|[[jan Kekan San]]}}<ref>{{tok|[[jan Kekan San]]}}. [//mun.la/lipu/monsutatesu-isnt-special Monsutatesu isn’t special (scrap)]. ''mun.la''.</ref> |
| {{tok|[[jan Kekan San]]}}<ref>{{tok|[[jan Kekan San]]}}. [//mun.la/lipu/monsutatesu-isnt-special {{tok|Monsutatesu}} isn’t special (scrap)]. ''mun.la''.</ref> |
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Revision as of 11:03, 22 October 2023
monsutatesu is an analysis of Toki Pona, which posists that some content words when used as verbs are auto-antonym, that is, they have two different meanings of which one is the reverse of another. The word is derived from the Toki Pona word monsuta, as it was the first to be analysed as such, and the English word "test". The sentence "sina monsuta e mi" can be interpreted both as "you scare me" or "you fear me".
Causes
Some cases of monsutatesu are from using a word in a different part of speech, then adapting that meaning back into the original part of speech. For example, pu defines moku as a verb meaning "to eat". When used as a noun, it is interpreted as something that is eaten: "food". If this noun sense is used as a verb, it means "to be food", with the inverse relation of its definition. Compare mi moku e ona ("I eat it") and mi moku ona ("I am its food").
Words analyzed under monsutatesu
The following table shows a list of words analyzed under monsutatesu. The letter X stands for the direct object of a transitive verb. Senses without it are intransitive.
| Word | Meaning | Noted by | |
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| Subject as agent | Subject as patient or other | ||
| kalama | to play; to make X make sound | to sound; to make the sound X | ike Pike[1] |
| lawa | to be a head; to control X | to put in charge; to make X a head | ike Pike[1] |
| mama | to be a parent; to nurture X | to make X a parent | jan Likipi[2][1] |
| moku | to consume (X) | to give fuel; to feed X | ike Pike[1] |
| to be fuel[a] | jan Misali[3] | ||
| monsuta | to be scary; to scare X | to be afraid; to fear X | jan Kipo[4][1] |
| musi | to be fun; to entertain X | to have fun; to enjoy X | jan Kekan San[5] |
Notes
- ↑ Fails monsutatesu as a transitive verb.
References
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 kala pona Tonyu (29 January 2021). "monsutatesu". lipu kule.
- ↑ jan Likipi [@lilscribby]. (28 July 2020). [Messages posted in the
#sona-musichannel in the ma pona pi toki pona Discord server]. Discord.re: what's monsutatesu
mi mama e ona means what?
usually "I created it" or "I parent/nurture it"
but that's backwards from the normal transitivity rules which would say "I make it into a parent"
which doesnt make much sense
- ↑ jan Misali (13 December 2015). "Day One: Reading and Whatnot" (2:28–2:42). 12 Days of sona pi toki pona. YouTube.
- ↑ janKipo (4 October 2010). Re: monsuta moli. Toki Pona Forums.
Does 'monsuta' as vt mean "be afraid of", as here, or "frighten"? The latter seems more reasonable somehow.
- ↑ jan Kekan San. Monsutatesu isn’t special (scrap). mun.la.