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'''Idioms''' are very rare in [[Toki Pona]] due to the focus on clear speech. |
'''Idioms''' are very rare in [[Toki Pona]] due to the focus on clear speech. |
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=={{tp|jo e luka mute}}== |
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One early idiom is {{tp|jo e luka mute}} ({{lit|to have many arms}}), meaning "to be complicated". At the time of this idiom's coinage, {{tp|[[luka]]}} was the highest-value [[number word]], so big numbers would have many repetitions of {{tp|luka}}.<ref>{{tok|[[jan Sonja]]}} (21 May 2002). "[http://forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?p=54 Compounds]". ''Toki Pona Forums''. Retrieved 12 October 2023.</ref><ref>{{cite Discord|name={{tok|[[jan Sonja]]}}|username=sonjalang|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/375591429608570881/1042502204403228702|server={{tp|ma pona pi toki pona}}|channel=sona-musi|quote={{tok|luka}} was the highest number at the time, so big numbers were like {{tok|luka luka luka luka luka luka luka wan}}[.] hence the idiom, {{tok|ona li jo e luka mute}}, it is complicated|retrieved=12 October 2023}}</ref> |
One early idiom is '''{{tp|jo e luka mute}}''' ({{lit|to have many arms}}), meaning "to be complicated". At the time of this idiom's coinage, {{tp|[[luka]]}} was the highest-value [[number word]], so big numbers would have many repetitions of {{tp|luka}}.<ref>{{tok|[[jan Sonja]]}} (21 May 2002). "[http://forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?p=54 Compounds]". ''Toki Pona Forums''. Retrieved 12 October 2023.</ref><ref>{{cite Discord|name={{tok|[[jan Sonja]]}}|username=sonjalang|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/375591429608570881/1042502204403228702|server={{tp|ma pona pi toki pona}}|channel=sona-musi|quote={{tok|luka}} was the highest number at the time, so big numbers were like {{tok|luka luka luka luka luka luka luka wan}}[.] hence the idiom, {{tok|ona li jo e luka mute}}, it is complicated|retrieved=12 October 2023}}</ref> |
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=={{tp|o moku e kala pona}}== |
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| ⚫ | Another idiom is {{tp|[[o moku e kala pona]]}} ({{tp|[[omekapo]]}} for short; {{lit|eat (a) good fish}}) which is used as a [[Phatic expressions and social conventions#Parting|farewell]].<ref>{{cite web|url=//lipukule.org/post/2021/01/23/omekapo|title={{tok|omekapo}}|author={{tok|kala pona Tonyu}}|username=|date=23 January 2021|website={{tok|lipu kule}}|publisher=|access-date=20 October 2023|quote=}}</ref> It is taken from a message that {{tok|[[jan Sonja]]}} signed in {{tok|jan Maliku}}'s copy of {{pu}}. |
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{{Main|omekapo}} |
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| ⚫ | Another idiom is '''{{tp|[[o moku e kala pona]]}}''' ({{tp|[[omekapo]]}} for short; {{lit|eat (a) good fish}}) which is used as a [[Phatic expressions and social conventions#Parting|farewell]].<ref>{{cite web|url=//lipukule.org/post/2021/01/23/omekapo|title={{tok|omekapo}}|author={{tok|kala pona Tonyu}}|username=|date=23 January 2021|website={{tok|lipu kule}}|publisher=|access-date=20 October 2023|quote=}}</ref> It is taken from a message that {{tok|[[jan Sonja]]}} signed in {{tok|jan Maliku}}'s copy of {{pu}}. |
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==References== |
==References== |
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Revision as of 13:28, 4 May 2024
Idioms are very rare in Toki Pona due to the focus on clear speech.
jo e luka mute
| joelukamute | |
| Origin | Number system before numeric ale |
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| Book | No book |
One early idiom is jo e luka mute (lit. 'to have many arms'), meaning "to be complicated". At the time of this idiom's coinage, luka was the highest-value number word, so big numbers would have many repetitions of luka.[1][2]
o moku e kala pona
Another idiom is o moku e kala pona (omekapo for short; lit. 'eat (a) good fish') which is used as a farewell.[3] It is taken from a message that jan Sonja signed in jan Maliku's copy of pu.
References
- ↑ jan Sonja (21 May 2002). "Compounds". Toki Pona Forums. Retrieved 12 October 2023.
- ↑ jan Sonja [@sonjalang]. (16 November 2022). [Message posted in the
#sona-musichannel in the ma pona pi toki pona Discord server]. Discord. Retrieved 12 October 2023. "luka was the highest number at the time, so big numbers were like luka luka luka luka luka luka luka wan[.] hence the idiom, ona li jo e luka mute, it is complicated". - ↑ kala pona Tonyu. (23 January 2021). "omekapo". lipu kule. Retrieved 20 October 2023.