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| ⚫ | '''{{tp|nasin nanpa kijetesantakalu}}''' is a joke {{w|number system}} created by {{tok|soweli nata}} in 2020<ref name="nata2020a"/> and featured in the |
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| ⚫ | '''{{tp|nasin nanpa kijetesantakalu}}''' is a joke {{w|number system}} created by {{tok|[[soweli nata]]}} in 2020<ref name="nata2020a"/> and featured in the {{ku|en}}.<ref name="ku9"/><ref>{{cite ku|399}}</ref><ref>{{cite Discord|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/301377942062366741/784123701204746260|name={{tok|[[jan Sonja]]}}|username=sonjalang|channel={{tok|ijo-ante}}|server={{tp|ma pona pi toki pona}}|access-date=2023-12-17|quote=I endorse the {{tp|kijetesantakalu}}-based number system.}}</ref> It consists of the word {{tp|[[kijetesantakalu]]}} with a different stressed syllable. The stress is unwritten in the orthography for "efficiency",<ref>{{cite Discord|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/301377942062366741/784123704833343508|name={{tok|soweli nata}}|username=cooltext.com|channel={{tok|toki-pona}}|server={{tp|ma pona pi toki pona}}|access-date=2023-12-17|quote=in written form the stress is unmarked for efficiency}}</ref> therefore making all digits indistinguishable in writing. |
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The following digits are written in the {{w|International Phonetic Alphabet}} (IPA), as according to {{tp|soweli nata}}, any change to the orthography turns it into a different number system.<ref name="nata2020b"/> Additionally, {{tok|waso pi sona nanpa}} proposed the word {{tp|kijetesantakalu}} with word-initial stress ({{w|International Phonetic Alphabet|IPA}}: {{IPA|[ˈkijetesantakalu]}}) as the {{w|decimal separator}}.<ref>{{cite Discord|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/301377942062366741/784123704833343508|name={{tok|waso pi sona nanpa}}|username=LabyrinthSplash#6468|channel={{tok|toki-pona}}|server={{tp|ma pona pi toki pona}}|access-date=2023-12-17|quote=i propose {{tok|KIjetesantakalu}} as the decimal point then}}</ref> |
The following digits are written in the {{w|International Phonetic Alphabet}} (IPA), as according to {{tp|soweli nata}}, any change to the orthography turns it into a different number system.<ref name="nata2020b"/> Additionally, {{tok|waso pi sona nanpa}} proposed the word {{tp|kijetesantakalu}} with word-initial stress ({{w|International Phonetic Alphabet|IPA}}: {{IPA|[ˈkijetesantakalu]}}) as the {{w|decimal separator}}.<ref>{{cite Discord|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/301377942062366741/784123704833343508|name={{tok|waso pi sona nanpa}}|username=LabyrinthSplash#6468|channel={{tok|toki-pona}}|server={{tp|ma pona pi toki pona}}|access-date=2023-12-17|quote=i propose {{tok|KIjetesantakalu}} as the decimal point then}}</ref> |
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I would like <mark>thirty</mark> apples. |
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After a lot of deliberation, I have finally come up with my very own {{tp|nasin nanpa}} that I believe stays true to the philosophy of Toki Pona. |
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Like some others, it uses base-6, with the most significant digit spoken first. Unlike some others, it allocates a few extra words for this. The wordsa are pronounced similary to the existing word {{tp|kijetesantakalu}}, but the stress is placed differently. |
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The digit 5 represented with the second syllable stressed, the digit 4 is represented with the third syllable stressed, and so on, up to 0, with the last syllable stressed. DO not be deceived; these are still different words! |
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Stress is not marked in written form. |
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: {{tp|mi wile e kili kijetesantakalu kijetesantakalu.}} |
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: I would like thirty apples. |
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{{Source|Toki Pona Dictionary/nasin nanpa kijetesantakalu|''Toki Pona Dictionary'' {{sect}} {{tp|nasin nanpa kijetesantakalu}}}} |
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<ref name="ku9">{{cite ku|9}}<blockquote>For those who yearn for a more sophisticated and robust number system, I personally endorse the {{tp|kijetesantakalu}}-based system, innovated by {{tok|soweli nata}} in alignment with the values system of Toki Pona. See near the end of this book.</blockquote></ref> |
<ref name="ku9">{{cite ku|9}}<blockquote>For those who yearn for a more sophisticated and robust number system, I personally endorse the {{tp|kijetesantakalu}}-based system, innovated by {{tok|soweli nata}} in alignment with the values system of Toki Pona. See near the end of this book.</blockquote></ref> |
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nasin nanpa kijetesantakalu is a joke number system created by soweli nata in 2020[1] and featured in the Toki Pona Dictionary.[2][3][4] It consists of the word kijetesantakalu with a different stressed syllable. The stress is unwritten in the orthography for "efficiency",[5] therefore making all digits indistinguishable in writing.
The following digits are written in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA), as according to soweli nata, any change to the orthography turns it into a different number system.[6] Additionally, waso pi sona nanpa proposed the word kijetesantakalu with word-initial stress (IPA: [ˈkijetesantakalu]) as the decimal separator.[7]
| Digit | Pronunciation |
|---|---|
| 0 | [kijetesantakaˈlu] |
| 1 | [kijetesantaˈkalu] |
| 2 | [kijetesanˈtakalu] |
| 3 | [kijeteˈsantakalu] |
| 4 | [kijeˈtesantakalu] |
| 5 | [kiˈjetesantakalu] |
soweli nata gives the following sentence as an example:
mi wile e kili kijetesantakalu kijetesantakalumi wile e kili kijetesantakalu kijetesantakalu
[kiˈjetesantakalu kijetesantakaˈlu]
I would like thirty apples.
See also[edit | edit source]
References[edit | edit source]
- ↑ soweli nata [@cooltext.com]. (4 December 2020). [Message posted in the
#sona-musichannel in the ma pona pi toki pona Discord server]. Discord. Retrieved 17 December 2023.after a lot of deliberation, i have finally come up with my very own nasin nanpa that i believe stays true to the philosophy of toki pona.
like some others, it uses base 6, with the most significant digit spoken first. unlike some others, it allocates a few extra words for this. the words are pronounced similarly to the existing word kijetesantakalu, but the stress is placed differently. the digit 5 is represented with the second syllable stressed, the digit 4 is represented with the third syllable stressed, and so on, up to 0, with the last syllable stressed. do not be deceived; these are still different words!
following the spirit of omekapo, stress is not marked in written form.
example: mi wile e kili kijetesantakalu kijetesantakalu. i would like thirty apples.
- ↑ Lang, Sonja. (18 July 2021). Toki Pona Dictionary. Illustrated by Vacon Sartirani. Tawhid. ISBN 978-0978292362. p. 9.
For those who yearn for a more sophisticated and robust number system, I personally endorse the kijetesantakalu-based system, innovated by soweli nata in alignment with the values system of Toki Pona. See near the end of this book.
- ↑ Lang, Sonja. (18 July 2021). Toki Pona Dictionary. Illustrated by Vacon Sartirani. Tawhid. ISBN 978-0978292362. p. 399.
- ↑ jan Sonja [@sonjalang]. (3 December 2020). [Message posted in the
#ijo-antechannel in the ma pona pi toki pona Discord server]. Discord. Retrieved 17 December 2023. "I endorse the kijetesantakalu-based number system.". - ↑ soweli nata [@cooltext.com]. (3 December 2020). [Message posted in the
#toki-ponachannel in the ma pona pi toki pona Discord server]. Discord. Retrieved 17 December 2023. "in written form the stress is unmarked for efficiency". - ↑ soweli nata [@cooltext.com]. (25 December 2020). [Message posted in the
#toki-ponachannel in the ma pona pi toki pona Discord server]. Discord. Retrieved 17 December 2023.1) i'm just soweli nata 2) it's not humorous 😤
also they're not capitalized
if someone capitalizes the stress then it's a different numbering system
- ↑ waso pi sona nanpa [@LabyrinthSplash#6468]. (3 December 2020). [Message posted in the
#toki-ponachannel in the ma pona pi toki pona Discord server]. Discord. Retrieved 17 December 2023. "i propose KIjetesantakalu as the decimal point then".