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{{lipu pona|blurb= '''''[[Special:MyLanguage/Nineteen Eighty-Four|lipu “1984”]]''''' li lipu pi ma ike. {{w|George Orwell|jan Joku Owe}} li pali e lipu ni. ma suli wan pi lukin tawa jan li lawa e '''{{w|Newspeak|toki Nusupiki}}''', toki lili lawa wan. toki ni li wile ni: jan mute li sona ala pilin suli. jan mute li musi tawa ''lipu Nineteen Eighty Four'' li musi tawa toki pona. jan wan li pali e {{a category|owe}} {{tp|[[Special:MyLanguage/nimi sin|nimi sin]]}} wan, '''{{tp|[[Special:MyLanguage/owe|owe]]}}'''. nimi owe li[[Special:MyLanguage/Joke words|musi]] tan ni. |
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lipu “1984” li lipu pi jan So Owe. lipu ni la, kulupu lawa pi wawa mute li lon. ona la jan ale li toki e toki Nusupiki. toki ni la, nimi lili li lon. toki ni li lon tan ni: toki ni la lawa li ken toki lili. jan mute li sona e lipu ni la, jan mute li toki mute e ni: ijo li sama lipu ni. toki pona kin la jan li toki e ni. ni la jan li lon e nimi musi “owe”. taso, jan mute li toki e ni: lipu “1984” li toki pi pona ala e lawa pi kulupu lawa ike. |
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'''''Nineteen Eighty-Four''''' or '''''1984''''' is a dystopian novel by {{w|George Orwell}}. In the book, a totalitarian surveillance superstate (Oceania) enforces '''{{w|Newspeak}}''', a simplified controlled language with a limited vocabulary, to suppress free and critical thinking. Hasty comparisons to ''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' are very common,<ref group="lower-alpha">In general, but also about Toki Pona specifically.</ref> to the point that {{a category|owe}} {{tp|[[Special:MyLanguage/nimi sin|nimi sin]]}}, '''{{tp|owe}}''' ("Orwellian"), has been coined to [[Special:MyLanguage/Joke words|joke]] about it. Whether Newspeak portrays government propaganda realistically in the first place is debatable. The {{w|Linguistic determinism|strong}} [[Special:MyLanguage/Sapir–Whorf hypothesis|Sapir–Whorf hypothesis]] is generally discredited, and [[Special:MyLanguage/Toki Pona|Toki Pona]] calls into question whether a language can be used to constrain expression. |
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==ante pi toki pona pi toki Nusipiki== |
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==Differences between Toki Pona and Newspeak== |
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*jan li kama sona e toki pona tan ni: ona li wile sona e toki. taso, jan li kama sona e toki Nusipiki tan ni: kulupu lawa pi ma Osijanija li lawa e ona. |
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* Toki Pona is learned by choice, not by force. It is meant for self-control, not controlling others. It is specialized and is not an [[Special:MyLanguage/international auxiliary language|international auxiliary language]] (IAL); it is not meant to displace any other language. |
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*toki Nusipiki li lawa e jan tan ni: ona li sona e toki Nusipiki taso. ona li sona e toki ante la ona li sona e sona pi toki Nusipiki ala. kulupu pi toki pona li toki e ni: jan li '''ken ala''' pana e sona pi toki pona taso tawa jan lili. |
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* Newspeak would only be practical as the speaker's only language; through their other languages, a polyglot would know concepts that Newspeak intends to destroy. Toki Pona is meant as a temporary reprieve from other languages. The community specifically '''does not support''' raising a child as a Toki Pona monolingual, considering this {{w|language deprivation}}, mainly because not being able to use Toki Pona with most people would cause the child to miss the {{w|Critical period hypothesis|critical period to acquire language faculty}}. |
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*toki pona li wile jo e nimi lili. taso, ona jo e nimi [[kijetesantakalu]]. jan mute li kepeken e nimi ni. toki Nusipiki la, nimi ni li kama lon ala. |
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* While Toki Pona is designed to reflect a certain [[Special:MyLanguage/Philosophy|ideology]], it is possible to speak in ways that are incongruous with it. For example, the word {{tp|[[Special:MyLanguage/kijetesantakalu|kijetesantakalu]]}} contradicts it, yet is in widespread use. While Newspeak would work to deprecate such a word, Toki Pona [[Special:MyLanguage/nimi ku suli|has officially endorsed learning about it]]. Toki Pona's ideology also has no political goal and is not authoritarian. |
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*toki Nusipiki li lon lili. ni la, sina ken ala lukin e pali ona. toki pona li lon la sina ken lukin e pali ona. |
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* Newspeak is a thought experiment with no known speakers. It only has a limited description in ''1984'' and its appendix, "The Principles of Newspeak". Without making noncanonical additions, Newspeak cannot be realized to the extent that its fictional speakers use it. You may take Orwell's word that Newspeak would have the effects described in ''1984'', but this is speculation. Toki Pona is a full, [[Special:MyLanguage/Is Toki Pona a real language?|real]], [[Toki Pona: The Language of Good|well-defined]] language with a speaking community, so it is possible to conduct actual, safe research on its effects. |
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*tenpo kama la, toki Nusipiki li kama jo e nimi lili. taso, tenpo kama la toki pona li kama jo e nimi mute. |
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* Newspeak has a continually diminishing vocabulary. Toki Pona's vocabulary has expanded since the publication of the book ''[[Toki Pona: The Language of Good|lipu pu]]''. [[Special:MyLanguage/nimi sin|Words made and revived by the community]] have entered widespread use. 17 such words, the {{tp|[[Special:MyLanguage/nimi ku suli|nimi ku suli]]}}, are officially endorsed in the ''[[Special:MyLanguage/Toki Pona Dictionary|Toki Pona Dictionary]]''. |
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*toki Nusipiki la, nimi li jo e kon lili. toki pona la, nimi li jo e kon suli. |
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* Words "that could be dispensed with" are removed from Newspeak. [[Special:MyLanguage/Minimalism|Toki Pona has many redundant words]], including [[Special:MyLanguage/antonym|antonym]]s: {{tp|ike}} ("bad") instead of {{tp|pona ala}} ("ungood"). [[:Category:Styles of Toki Pona|Styles of Toki Pona]] that experiment with removing words are generally not motivated by minimizing redundancy. |
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*toki Nusipiki la, nimi li jo e kon nasa. toki pona la, jan li ken lukin e ike lon toki ona. “jan pona ike”, anu “utala li utala ala” la sina ken lukin e ike. |
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* Newspeak words have "rigid", "exact and often very subtle" [[Special:MyLanguage/semantic space|semantic space]]s. Most Toki Pona [[Special:MyLanguage/content word|content word]]s are extremely broad in meaning, covering physical and abstract concepts, and so are able to express various shades of meaning depending on [[Special:MyLanguage/context|context]]. The goal is to express as much of universal human experience as possible in a low amount of words. With enough practice and effort, you can say anything in Toki Pona. |
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* Newspeak is famous for compound words with fixed meanings. An example includes ''Minitrue'' (Ministry of Truth). [[Special:MyLanguage/Lexicalization|Toki Pona tries to avoid letting phrases solidify like this.]] Where Newspeak narrows meaning down, Toki Pona allows a combinatorial explosion of meaning. |
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* In Newspeak, many words and phrases mean the opposite of what they appear. Toki Pona tries to draw attention to apparent contradictions and encourage speakers to investigate them more deeply. For example, translating "bad friend" as {{tp|jan pona ike}} ("bad good person") could motivate you to rethink a friendship. {{tp|utala li utala ala}} ("War is peace") would have a similar effect. |
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*toki pona la, sina ken ala toki sike sama ala toki Nusipiki. toki pona la, “downsized for profitability” pi toki Inli li ken kama “jan lawa pi kulupu li weka e jan mute tan ni: ona li wile mani.” |
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* It is trivial, and perfectly allowed, to construct Toki Pona phrases that contradict Ingsoc orthodoxy. {{tp|nasin pi lawa ma li ken ike.}} "A government's ways can be bad." {{tp|sona ala li wawa ala.}} "Ignorance is not strength." |
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* Toki Pona encourages critical thinking <em>because</em> of its limitations. [[Special:MyLanguage/mi ken ala toki pona e ijo la mi sona ala e ijo|To discuss something well, you must understand it well]] and figure out an informative way to describe it. This provides new insights and makes it clear when there is an opportunity to learn more about the world. |
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* By giving practice with [[Special:MyLanguage/circumlocution|circumlocution]], Toki Pona can improve your faculty with other languages, rather than erode it. This makes it easier to define terms, and to give descriptions in place of unknown, forgotten terms. |
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* Unlike Newspeak, Toki Pona avoids euphemism. The English "downsized for profitability" might be rendered {{tp|lawa esun li wile awen jo e mani mute li weka e jan mute}} ("The head of the business wanted to keep having a lot of money and removed a lot of people"; "mass firing for greed"). Even if you do find a way around saying what you mean directly, it may be [[Special:MyLanguage/Politeness|considered rude]] to obscure the true meaning. |
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'''{{tp|owe}}''' is {{a category|owe}} [[Special:MyLanguage/joke word|joke word]] used to satirize Orwellian and totalitarian concepts and accusations. It was coined by {{tok|nano}} in 2021.<ref name="nano2021" /> Its {{tp|[[Special:MyLanguage/sitelen pona|sitelen pona]]}} glyph ({{sp|owe}}) is derived from the glyph for {{tp|[[Special:MyLanguage/lukin|lukin]]}} with [[Special:MyLanguage/emitters|emitters]] above, representing the {{w|global surveillance}} of the fictional {{w|Oceania (Nineteen Eighty-Four)|Oceanian}} government in ''Nineteen Eighty-Four''. |
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nimi nanpa la, ona li nanpa ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale mute mute mute mute tu tu. |
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As a number word, it may refer to the quantity of 1984, especially when referring to the year, as in {{tp|tenpo sike nanpa owe}}.<ref>{{cite Discord|url=https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/340307145373253642/1191265875043557467|name={{tok|jan Sonja}}|username=sonjalang|channel={{tok|pali-musi}}|server={{tp|ma pona pi toki pona}}|access-date=2024-01-02}}</ref> |
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==External links== |
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* [https://web.archive.org/web/20210603170327/http://fakelinguist.wakayos.com/?p=637 toki pona and Orwell’s NewSpeak] by Matthew Martin, a 2013 essay critiquing comparisons between Toki Pona and NewSpeak |
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lipu “1984” li lipu pi jan So Owe. lipu ni la, kulupu lawa pi wawa mute li lon. ona la jan ale li toki e toki Nusupiki. toki ni la, nimi lili li lon. toki ni li lon tan ni: toki ni la lawa li ken toki lili. jan mute li sona e lipu ni la, jan mute li toki mute e ni: ijo li sama lipu ni. toki pona kin la jan li toki e ni. ni la jan li lon e nimi musi “owe”. taso, jan mute li toki e ni: lipu “1984” li toki pi pona ala e lawa pi kulupu lawa ike.
ante pi toki pona pi toki Nusipiki
- jan li kama sona e toki pona tan ni: ona li wile sona e toki. taso, jan li kama sona e toki Nusipiki tan ni: kulupu lawa pi ma Osijanija li lawa e ona.
- toki Nusipiki li lawa e jan tan ni: ona li sona e toki Nusipiki taso. ona li sona e toki ante la ona li sona e sona pi toki Nusipiki ala. kulupu pi toki pona li toki e ni: jan li ken ala pana e sona pi toki pona taso tawa jan lili.
- toki pona li wile jo e nimi lili. taso, ona jo e nimi kijetesantakalu. jan mute li kepeken e nimi ni. toki Nusipiki la, nimi ni li kama lon ala.
- toki Nusipiki li lon lili. ni la, sina ken ala lukin e pali ona. toki pona li lon la sina ken lukin e pali ona.
nimi
- tenpo kama la, toki Nusipiki li kama jo e nimi lili. taso, tenpo kama la toki pona li kama jo e nimi mute.
- toki Nusipiki la, nimi li jo e kon lili. toki pona la, nimi li jo e kon suli.
- toki Nusipiki la, nimi li jo e kon nasa. toki pona la, jan li ken lukin e ike lon toki ona. “jan pona ike”, anu “utala li utala ala” la sina ken lukin e ike.
nasin toki
- toki pona la, sina ken ala toki sike sama ala toki Nusipiki. toki pona la, “downsized for profitability” pi toki Inli li ken kama “jan lawa pi kulupu li weka e jan mute tan ni: ona li wile mani.”
owe
nimi owe li nimi sin musi.
nimi nanpa la, ona li nanpa ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale mute mute mute mute tu tu.
It may be considered an antonym of another obscure word, kamalawala.
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External links
- toki pona and Orwell’s NewSpeak by Matthew Martin, a 2013 essay critiquing comparisons between Toki Pona and NewSpeak