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{{Hatnote|Not to be confused with the unrelated particle {{tp|[[ki]]}} or exclusive pronoun {{tp|[[wi]]}} (both also nonstandard).}}
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'''{{tp|kisiwi}}''' is an experimental alternative [[pronoun]] system for [[Toki Pona]], by jan Seli. It uses the words '''{{tp|ki}}''', '''{{tp|si}}''', and '''{{tp|wi}}''' instead of {{tp|[[mi]]}}, {{tp|[[sina]]}}, {{tp|[[ona]]}}, and {{tp|[[ni]]}}.
'''{{tp|kisiwi}}''' is an experimental alternative [[pronoun]] system for [[Toki Pona]]. It uses three {{tp|[[nimi sin]]}}, '''{{tp|ki}}''', '''{{tp|si}}''', and '''{{tp|wi}}''', instead of the standard {{tp|[[mi]]}}, {{tp|[[sina]]}}, {{tp|[[ona]]}}, and {{tp|[[ni]]}}. The system was created by {{tok|jan Seli}} and first published on the {{tp|[[ma pona pi toki pona]]}} Discord server.<ref name="kisiwi proposal">{{cite Discord|url=//discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/375591429608570881/920405467140853761|channel={{tok|sona-musi}}|server={{tp|ma pona pi toki pona}}|author={{tok|jan Seli}}|username=th3scribble|access-date=2024-04-24|quote=}}</ref>


If the words ki, si, and wi are hard to distinguish, then the alternatives koni, soni, and ani are possible.
{{tp|ki}} refers to the speaker, and things near the speaker. {{tp|si}} refers to the listener, and things near the listener. {{tp|wi}} refers to everything else. If the words {{tp|ki}}, {{tp|si}}, and {{tp|wi}} are hard to distinguish, then the alternatives '''{{tp|koni}}''', '''{{tp|soni}}''', and '''{{tp|ani}}''' are possible.


Like {{tp|mi}} and {{tp|sina}}, if {{tp|ki}}, {{tp|si}}, or {{tp|wi}} is the whole subject of a sentence, then {{tp|[[li]]}} is omitted.
The system is based on the Japanese words kore, sore, and are. ki refers to the speaker, and things near the speaker. si refers to the listener, and things near the listener. wi refers to everything else.


==Inspiration and etymology==
Like mi and sina, if ki, si, or wi is the whole subject of a sentence, then li is omitted.
The system is based on the the {{wp|Japanese language|Japanese}} {{lang|ja|こそあど}} (''{{lang|ja|ko-so-a-do}}'') system of {{w|demonstrative}}s, specifically the pronouns {{lang|ja|此れ}} (''{{lang|ja|kore}}''), {{lang|ja|其れ}} (''{{lang|ja|sore}}''), and {{lang|ja|彼}} (''{{lang|ja|are}}''). The words were also chosen because all other words of the form C{{tp|i}} were already existent or [[wuwojiti|disallowed]],<ref name="kisiwi proposal" /> explaining the derivation of {{tp|wi}}.


==References==
kisiwi was first published in the #sona-musi channel on the ma pona pi toki pona Discord server.
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Latest revision as of 08:22, 24 April 2024

Caution: The subject of this article is an experimental or hypothetical style that is not understood by most speakers, or is used only in specific small communities. Learners should avoid using it.

kisiwi is an experimental alternative pronoun system for Toki Pona. It uses three nimi sin, ki, si, and wi, instead of the standard mi, sina, ona, and ni. The system was created by jan Seli and first published on the ma pona pi toki pona Discord server.[1]

ki refers to the speaker, and things near the speaker. si refers to the listener, and things near the listener. wi refers to everything else. If the words ki, si, and wi are hard to distinguish, then the alternatives koni, soni, and ani are possible.

Like mi and sina, if ki, si, or wi is the whole subject of a sentence, then li is omitted.

Inspiration and etymology[edit | edit source]

The system is based on the the Japanese こそあど (ko-so-a-do) system of demonstratives, specifically the pronouns 此れ (kore), 其れ (sore), and (are). The words were also chosen because all other words of the form Ci were already existent or disallowed,[1] explaining the derivation of wi.

References[edit | edit source]

  1. 1.0 1.1 jan Seli [@th3scribble]. (14 December 2021). [Message posted in the #sona-musi channel in the ma pona pi toki pona Discord server]. Discord. Retrieved 24 April 2024.
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