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'''{{tp|iki}}''' was an early third-person pronoun used instead {{tp|[[ona]]}}, coined in 2001, when Toki Pona was first published. The word was derived from {{w|Georgian language|Georgian}} {{lang|ka|იბი}} (''igi'').<ref>{{cite etym}}</ref> In March 2002, a poll was created in the Yahoo group asking whether {{tp|iki}} should be changed as it was "too long and too similar to {{tp|[[ike]]}}".<ref>tokipona@yahoogroups.com (24 March 2002). [http://forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?t=1 New poll for tokipona]. ''Toki Pona Forums''.</ref> The proposals for replacing {{tp|iki}} included '''{{tp|i}}''' and '''{{tp|ipi}}'''.
'''{{tp|iki}}''' was the original third-person pronoun in Toki Pona.<ref>{{cite web|title=Original lessons|author=Sonja Lang|date=2001|website=bknight0.myweb.uga.edu|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090819063449/http://bknight0.myweb.uga.edu/toki/about/lesson/learn.html|urldate=2024-01-14}}</ref> The word was derived from {{w|Georgian language|Georgian}} {{lang|ka|იბი}} (''igi'').<ref>{{cite etym}}</ref> In March 2002, a poll was created in the Yahoo group asking whether {{tp|iki}} should be changed as it was "too long and too similar to {{tp|[[ike]]}}".<ref>tokipona@yahoogroups.com (24 March 2002). [http://forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?t=1 New poll for tokipona]. ''Toki Pona Forums''.</ref> The proposals for replacing {{tp|iki}} included '''{{tp|i}}''' and '''{{tp|ipi}}'''. In a second poll in May 2002,<ref>tokipona@yahoogroups.com (15 May 2002). [http://forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?t=1#p51 New poll for tokipona]. ''Toki Pona Forums''.</ref> it was decided to change {{tp|iki}} to {{tp|[[ona]]}}.<ref>tokipona@yahoogroups.com (21 May 2002). [http://forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?p=55#p55 Poll results for tokipona]. ''Toki Pona Forums''.</ref>


These nonstandard pronouns sometimes appear when quoting early texts. [[sitelen pona fonts|{{tp|sitelen pona}} fonts]] might include them to allow historical texts to be transcribed, or just for completeness. However, these words are essentially never used in modern [[toki pona]], and some fonts simply alias them to the glyph for {{tp|ona}} ({{sp|ona}}). In other fonts, their {{tp|[[sitelen pona]]}} glyphs are derived by altering that glyph, typically still featuring a horizontal line.
In a second poll in May 2002,<ref>tokipona@yahoogroups.com (15 May 2002). [http://forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?t=1#p51 New poll for tokipona]. ''Toki Pona Forums''.</ref> it was decided to change {{tp|iki}} to {{tp|ona}}.<ref>tokipona@yahoogroups.com (21 May 2002). [http://forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?p=55#p55 Poll results for tokipona]. ''Toki Pona Forums''.</ref>

These nonstandard pronouns are sometimes referenced for historical purposes,{{citation needed}} and [[sitelen pona fonts|{{tp|sitelen pona}} fonts]] might include them to allow historical texts to be transcribed, or just for completeness. However, the words don't actually see any notable modern use beyond that, and some of these fonts simply alias them to the glyph for {{tp|ona}} ({{sp|ona}}). In other fonts, their {{tp|[[sitelen pona]]}} glyphs are derived by altering that glyph, typically still featuring a horizontal line.
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Revision as of 06:33, 14 January 2024

Caution: The subject of this article is nonstandard and will not be understood by most speakers.
If you are a learner, this information will not help you speak the language. It is recommended to familiarize yourself with the standard style, and to be informed and selective about which nonstandard styles you adopt.

This is a list of archaic words, pre-pu words that have fallen out of use. They are widely not understood, and are mainly found through dictionaries that list them for completeness.

iki, i, and ipi

Pronunciation /ˈi.ki/
Usage 2023: Not notable (1% → )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (1%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era No book (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word
Pronunciation /i/
Usage 2023: Not notable (1% → )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (1%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era No book (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word
Pronunciation /ˈi.pi/
Usage 2023: Not notable (1% → )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (1%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era No book (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word

iki was the original third-person pronoun in Toki Pona.[1] The word was derived from Georgian იბი (igi).[2] In March 2002, a poll was created in the Yahoo group asking whether iki should be changed as it was "too long and too similar to ike".[3] The proposals for replacing iki included i and ipi. In a second poll in May 2002,[4] it was decided to change iki to ona.[5]

These nonstandard pronouns sometimes appear when quoting early texts. sitelen pona fonts might include them to allow historical texts to be transcribed, or just for completeness. However, these words are essentially never used in modern toki pona, and some fonts simply alias them to the glyph for ona (ona). In other fonts, their sitelen pona glyphs are derived by altering that glyph, typically still featuring a horizontal line.

kan

Pronunciation /kan/
Usage 2023: Obscure (4% ↘︎ )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (7%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era nimi ku lili (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word

kan is an obscure early word used to mean "together".[6]

The etymology of kan is uncertain. nimi ale pona claims that it might be from Finnish kanssa, meaning "with", or Esperanto kun "with", itself from Latin cum.[7]

A sitelen pona glyph for kan (kan) depicts two generic things together. It consists of a circle, from ijo (ijo), in front of another circle to the upper right, which it partly occludes. It was designed by nimi Elemenopi in July 2020.[8][9]

kapa

Pronunciation /ˈka.pa/
Usage 2023: Not notable (1% ↘︎ )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (2%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era No book (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word

kapa is a marginal early version of nena. It was coined by jan Sonja and was used as far back as the first publicly available dictionary from March 2002. It was replaced by nena in June of the same year.

The etymology of kapa is unknown. Possibilities include Dutch kop and Esperanto kapo, itself from Latin capus, all meaning "head".[7]

jalan

jalan in sitelen pona
Pronunciation /ˈja.lan//j/ sounds like English Y, as in "fjord" or "hallelujah".
Usage 2023: Not notable (1% → )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (1%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era No book (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word

jalan is a marginal early version of noka. It was proposed by jan Sonja in 2002 and is derived from Finnish jalan, meaning "on foot", which is the genitive singular form of jalka "foot".[10] This proposal was rejected by a vote, resulting in 1 vote for jalan and 3 votes for keeping noka.[11]

Despite being deprecated and obsolete, the word jalan was featured on lipu tenpo in the article "o jalan!" written by jan Imi.[12]

pasila

Pronunciation /ˈpa.si.la/
Usage 2023: Obscure (3% ↘︎ )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (4%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era No book (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word

pasila is an obscure early version of pona, with emphasis on the meaning of "easy". It was coined by jan Sonja before 2001 and is derived either from Acadian French facile or Esperanto facila, both meaning "easy".[7]

pata

Pronunciation /ˈpa.ta/
Usage 2023: Obscure (4% ↘︎ )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (5%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era nimi ku lili (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word

pata is an obscure word for siblings.[13] It was removed by jan Sonja around February 2002, after she returned from a break.[14] The phrases jan sama ("similar people") or jan pi mama sama ("people of the same parent") are generally appropriate as equivalent to pata.[15]

tuli and po

Pronunciation /ˈtu.li/
Usage 2023: Obscure (2% ↘︎ )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (4%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era nimi ku lili (pre-pu)
Part of speech Number, content word
Pronunciation /po/
Usage 2023: Obscure (5% → )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (5%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era nimi ku lili (pre-pu)
Part of speech Number, content word

tuli and po are obscure early number words meaning 3 and 4, respectively. In the modern advanced counting systems, they are equivalent to tu wan and tu tu.[16][17]

References

  1. Sonja Lang. (1 June 2001). "Original lessons". bknight0.myweb.uga.edu.
  2. "Word Origins". tokipona.org. Archived from the original on 8 August 2002.
  3. tokipona@yahoogroups.com (24 March 2002). New poll for tokipona. Toki Pona Forums.
  4. tokipona@yahoogroups.com (15 May 2002). New poll for tokipona. Toki Pona Forums.
  5. tokipona@yahoogroups.com (21 May 2002). Poll results for tokipona. Toki Pona Forums.
  6. Lang, Sonja. (18 July 2021). Toki Pona Dictionary. Illustrated by Vacon Sartirani. Tawhid. ISBN 978-0978292362. p. 242.

    alongside1, together1, with1, associated½, involved½, amid½

  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 Moniz, C. Ryan (jan inwin); van der Meulen, Spencer H. (jan Pensa); lipamanka. (8 October 2020). "nimi ale pona (2nd ed.)". Google Docs.
  8. nimi Elemenopi [u/ElemenopiTheSequel]. (26 July 2020). "I made a sitelen pona glyph for every non-pu word in the "nimi ale pona" dictionary". r/tokipona. Reddit. Retrieved 28 December 2023.
  9. nimi Elemenopi [u/ElemenopiTheSequel]. (15 August 2020). "Here are the official glyphs for the 1b words in the NA". r/OffThePu. Reddit. Retrieved 28 December 2023. "[Key: black] = original, made by me".
  10. tokipona@yahoogroups.com (24 March 2002). "New poll for tokipona". Toki Pona Forums. Retrieved 17 November 2023.
  11. tokipona@yahoogroups.com (6 May 2002). "Poll results for tokipona". Toki Pona Forums. Retrieved 17 November 2023.
  12. jan Imi (1 September 2021). "o jalan1!". In lipu tenpo nanpa kule (In Toki Pona). lipu tenpo.
  13. Lang, Sonja. (18 July 2021). Toki Pona Dictionary. Illustrated by Vacon Sartirani. Tawhid. ISBN 978-0978292362. p. 319.

    sibling½, cousin½

  14. Sonja Lang. (2 July 2022). "New lessons coming soon!". Toki Pona Forums. Retrieved 29 November 2023.
  15. "Extinct words". lipu pi jan Pije. Archived from the original on 17 February 2020. Retrieved 29 November 2023.
  16. Lang, Sonja. (18 July 2021). Toki Pona Dictionary. Illustrated by Vacon Sartirani. Tawhid. ISBN 978-0978292362. p. 381.

    Data not found

  17. Lang, Sonja. (18 July 2021). Toki Pona Dictionary. Illustrated by Vacon Sartirani. Tawhid. ISBN 978-0978292362. p. 330.

    four½