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In a second poll in May 2002,<ref>tokipona@yahoogroups.com (15 May 2002). [http://forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?t=1#p51 New poll for tokipona]. ''Toki Pona Forums''.</ref> it was decided to change {{tp|iki}} to {{tp|ona}}.<ref>tokipona@yahoogroups.com (21 May 2002). [http://forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?p=55#p55 Poll results for tokipona]. ''Toki Pona Forums''.</ref>
In a second poll in May 2002,<ref>tokipona@yahoogroups.com (15 May 2002). [http://forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?t=1#p51 New poll for tokipona]. ''Toki Pona Forums''.</ref> it was decided to change {{tp|iki}} to {{tp|ona}}.<ref>tokipona@yahoogroups.com (21 May 2002). [http://forums.tokipona.org/viewtopic.php?p=55#p55 Poll results for tokipona]. ''Toki Pona Forums''.</ref>


While these nonstandard pronouns are sometimes referenced for historical purposes,{{citation needed}} they don't actually see any noticable use beyond that.
These nonstandard pronouns are sometimes referenced for historical purposes,{{citation needed}} and [[sitelen pona fonts|{{tp|sitelen pona}} fonts]] might include them to allow historical texts to be transcribed, or just for completeness. However, the words don't actually see any notable modern use beyond that, and some of these fonts simply alias them to the glyph for {{tp|ona}} ({{sp|ona}}). In other fonts, their {{tp|[[sitelen pona]]}} glyphs are derived by altering that glyph.
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Revision as of 06:49, 27 December 2023

Caution: The subject of this article is nonstandard and will not be understood by most speakers.
If you are a learner, this information will not help you speak the language. It is recommended to familiarize yourself with the standard style, and to be informed and selective about which nonstandard styles you adopt.

This is a list of archaic words, pre-pu words that have fallen out of use. They are widely not understood, and are mainly found through dictionaries that list them for completeness.

iki, i, and ipi

Pronunciation /ˈi.ki/
Usage 2023: Not notable (1% → )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (1%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era No book (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word
Pronunciation /i/
Usage 2023: Not notable (1% → )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (1%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era No book (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word
Pronunciation /ˈi.pi/
Usage 2023: Not notable (1% → )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (1%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era No book (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word

iki was an early third-person pronoun used instead ona, coined in 2001, when Toki Pona was first published. The word was derived from Georgian იბი (igi).[1] In March 2002, a poll was created in the Yahoo group asking whether iki should be changed as it was "too long and too similar to ike".[2] The proposals for replacing iki included i and ipi.

In a second poll in May 2002,[3] it was decided to change iki to ona.[4]

These nonstandard pronouns are sometimes referenced for historical purposes,[citation needed] and sitelen pona fonts might include them to allow historical texts to be transcribed, or just for completeness. However, the words don't actually see any notable modern use beyond that, and some of these fonts simply alias them to the glyph for ona (ona). In other fonts, their sitelen pona glyphs are derived by altering that glyph.

kan

Pronunciation /kan/
Usage 2023: Obscure (4% ↘︎ )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (7%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era nimi ku lili (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word

kan is an obscure early word used to mean "together".[5]

The etymology of kan is uncertain. nimi ale pona claims that it might be from Finnish kanssa, meaning "with", or Esperanto kun "with", itself from Latin cum.[6]

kapa

Pronunciation /ˈka.pa/
Usage 2023: Not notable (1% ↘︎ )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (2%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era No book (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word

kapa is a marginal early version of nena. It was coined by jan Sonja and was used as far back as the first publicly available dictionary from March 2002. It was replaced by nena in June of the same year.

The etymology of kapa is unknown. Possibilities include Dutch kop and Esperanto kapo, itself from Latin capus, all meaning "head".[6]

jalan

Pronunciation /ˈja.lan//j/ sounds like English Y, as in "fjord" or "hallelujah".
Usage 2023: Not notable (1% → )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (1%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era No book (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word

jalan is a marginal early version of noka. It was proposed by jan Sonja in 2002 and is derived from Finnish jalan, meaning "on foot", which is the genitive singular form of jalka "foot".[7] This proposal was rejected by a vote, resulting in 1 vote for jalan and 3 votes for keeping noka.[8]

Despite being deprecated and obsolete, the word jalan was featured on lipu tenpo in the article "o jalan!" written by jan Imi.[9]

pasila

Pronunciation /ˈpa.si.la/
Usage 2023: Obscure (3% ↘︎ )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (4%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era No book (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word

pasila is an obscure early version of pona, with emphasis on the meaning of "easy". It was coined by jan Sonja before 2001 and is derived either from Acadian French facile or Esperanto facila, both meaning "easy".[6]

pata

Pronunciation /ˈpa.ta/
Usage 2023: Obscure (4% ↘︎ )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (5%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era nimi ku lili (pre-pu)
Part of speech Content word

pata is an obscure word for siblings.[10] It was removed by jan Sonja around February 2002, after she returned from a break.[11] The phrases jan sama ("similar people") or jan pi mama sama ("people of the same parent") are generally appropriate as equivalent to pata.[12]

Number words

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tuli

Pronunciation /ˈtu.li/
Usage 2023: Obscure (2% ↘︎ )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (4%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era nimi ku lili (pre-pu)
Part of speech Number, content word

tuli is an obscure early number word meaning three, equivalent to tu wan.[13]

po

Pronunciation /po/
Usage 2023: Obscure (5% → )Caution: Most speakers don't understand this word.2022: Obscure (5%)This word is deprecated.
Book and era nimi ku lili (pre-pu)
Part of speech Number, content word

po is an obscure early number word meaning four, equivalent to tu tu.[14]

References

  1. "Word Origins". tokipona.org. Archived from the original on 8 August 2002.
  2. tokipona@yahoogroups.com (24 March 2002). New poll for tokipona. Toki Pona Forums.
  3. tokipona@yahoogroups.com (15 May 2002). New poll for tokipona. Toki Pona Forums.
  4. tokipona@yahoogroups.com (21 May 2002). Poll results for tokipona. Toki Pona Forums.
  5. Lang, Sonja. (18 July 2021). Toki Pona Dictionary. Illustrated by Vacon Sartirani. Tawhid. ISBN 978-0978292362. p. 242.

    alongside1, together1, with1, associated½, involved½, amid½

  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 Moniz, C. Ryan (jan inwin); van der Meulen, Spencer H. (jan Pensa); lipamanka. (8 October 2020). "nimi ale pona (2nd ed.)". Google Docs.
  7. tokipona@yahoogroups.com (24 March 2002). "New poll for tokipona". Toki Pona Forums. Retrieved 17 November 2023.
  8. tokipona@yahoogroups.com (6 May 2002). "Poll results for tokipona". Toki Pona Forums. Retrieved 17 November 2023.
  9. jan Imi (1 September 2021). "o jalan1!". In lipu tenpo nanpa kule (In Toki Pona). lipu tenpo.
  10. Lang, Sonja. (18 July 2021). Toki Pona Dictionary. Illustrated by Vacon Sartirani. Tawhid. ISBN 978-0978292362. p. 319.

    sibling½, cousin½

  11. Sonja Lang. (2 July 2022). "New lessons coming soon!". Toki Pona Forums. Retrieved 29 November 2023.
  12. "Extinct words". lipu pi jan Pije. Archived from the original on 17 February 2020. Retrieved 29 November 2023.
  13. Lang, Sonja. (18 July 2021). Toki Pona Dictionary. Illustrated by Vacon Sartirani. Tawhid. ISBN 978-0978292362. p. 381.

    Data not found

  14. Lang, Sonja. (18 July 2021). Toki Pona Dictionary. Illustrated by Vacon Sartirani. Tawhid. ISBN 978-0978292362. p. 330.

    four½